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JinsHypeman2
10-08-2004, 01:02 AM
Aight after listening to the songs over and over...they get better over time...
Final score 7/10 :headbang:
now i just cant wait to see jins first week sales...The Rest is History!!!
i dont think so.....
i downlaoded like 2 songs...to sample...
i downloaded love song and the come thru
wasnt feelin the come thru at first but then got better...
love song..damn...just hot
Niggorea
10-08-2004, 01:09 AM
^u changed... is it cuz jin the emcee took ur spot?
Barry
10-08-2004, 01:10 AM
i think it was pretty good. Better than i expected. ur a faggot so no one cares about ur opinion.
the return of smigg
10-08-2004, 01:12 AM
i liked thank you it was a dope track heartfelt...he gives landy a shout out thats nuts i wish i knew someone that famous lol :(
M-roc
10-08-2004, 01:16 AM
i liked thank you it was a dope track heartfelt...he gives landy a shout out thats nuts i wish i knew someone that famous lol :(
I am going to tell holla front something. RR and Virgin dropped the ball on this one. There is no promo what so ever on the telle. Album coming out in two weeks and learn Chinese is totally out of rotation. I heard a video was shot for senortia months back. Well if it was shot. Why wasn’t it shown at the 1000th 106 and park show? Jin is like the reason 106 got better ratings.
I said you fans should go out and support the dude still. Nevertheless, where is RR family on this album? No Cassidy, no jada!
the return of smigg
10-08-2004, 01:18 AM
styles p is on it? hes RR right??? and i heard the day before he drops his albums hes hiten up 106 n park and dropin a new video prolly the senorita joint...and learn chiense is still played now n then on my stations
Barry
10-08-2004, 01:18 AM
chill out the video will premiere like next week...
JinsHypeman2
10-08-2004, 01:19 AM
on the real though...shit just aint hott...like only 2 good songs outta the whole album...fuck i aint gonnal lie...his freestyles on radio shows strait up...tears the shit outta his whole album...jin should be like jay z and go to the booth and start freestylin ...kick out fuckin 3 albums out in a year...
conclusion...
jin stay a battlecat...or pay somebody to write yo shit..damn!
fuckin waited 3 years just to hear garbage grow to the ceiling!...
Barry
10-08-2004, 01:25 AM
^ still doesnt change how gay u are
plus what did u expect? dr dre beats?
Ldawg
10-08-2004, 01:25 AM
arent you suppose to be jinshypeman? whats up with all the negative
Niggorea
10-08-2004, 01:31 AM
OH SHIT jinshypemen changed! he aint a dickryder anymore
like i said is it cuz jin the emcee took ur spot?
Millyon
10-08-2004, 01:33 AM
yeah... i thought it was gonna be better
M-roc
10-08-2004, 01:37 AM
yeah... i thought it was gonna be better
Allot of people are saying that right now. The production is good.
i dont care...
what you people say..
im STILL gonna buy the album...
i been downloading jins songs for YEARS...
i gone to far to back out now
Barry
10-08-2004, 01:38 AM
it's actually good. you guys just listened to half the albums. Remember when u guys first heard "Get Your Handz Off" and "Thank You" that's 2 more better tracks.
I actually got back into listening "I Got a Love"
basically we listened to 7 tracks outta 17 tracks. basically 8 new tracks...
Phame
10-08-2004, 01:42 AM
I hope he doesn't flop like sisqo
Millyon
10-08-2004, 01:44 AM
i'm not moved enough to buy the whole album, but i will get cold outside off of iTunes
Matt_Jay212
10-08-2004, 01:44 AM
I'm hoping "Love Song" is deep, and not just a love song. I know it supposedely touches upon interracial issues, so I'm looking forward to that...
... interesting feedback, but i'll have to see hear this myself to see if its true, or total bs. AND.. again, stil... sadly, no promo. sad.
M-roc
10-08-2004, 01:51 AM
JinsHypeman2 i want to here your review on every track.
Barry
10-08-2004, 01:54 AM
Matt Jay... i think you mean "Love Story"
dam..whered u guys get the album? haha
Matt_Jay212
10-08-2004, 02:00 AM
Matt Jay... i think you mean "Love Story"
That's what I meant. Thanks.
Phame
10-08-2004, 02:01 AM
Who agrees here..that his last mixtape should of been his album
JinsHypeman2
10-08-2004, 02:04 AM
defintion of history is way better!..hands down!...but gotta give jin mad props for his dope off the head radio freestyles!!!
Jin is a genius when it comes to live battles..
But as soon as jin grabs a pen...its like his fuckin dick is writing the lyrics or something...
Jin Writtens = Clark Kent
Jin Freestyles = Superman
dunno what the fuck is wrong with u guys.. yall expect too much from him.. his cd is aight.. better than some of the shits out there 7/10.. production is nice.. lyrics are nice..
its worth buying.. so stop trippin
half of the songs are good.. the other half is aight.. nothin suck..
same cry is deep as fuck
BDaly
10-08-2004, 02:14 AM
yo i dont think the album is going to be bad...where did u get the whole album from...i still dont believe u
JinsHypeman2
10-08-2004, 02:16 AM
When jin freestyle battles...the crowds goes nuts, almost fuckin crazy like...
But at jin rap shows...the crowds doesnt really feel the vibe...
i would post the link to the whole album..but this thread would be erased..!!!
one trak m1nD
10-08-2004, 02:17 AM
After first listen, I'd give the album a 7.5 out of 10.
The XXL and Vibe reviews were pretty much on point.
I'd have to agree that The Definition of History was more solid than this.
But then again, maybe that's because by being on this site, I've already heard like half the album, so it's sorta anti-climatic in a sense.
Not to mention that he re-uses some of his freestyle lines in a couple of the tracks...
Overall, it's not bad, but it's not great either.
It's a good effort for a first album though.
Some things:
Haha, the Chinese beats skit is hilarious.
The orginal "Thank You," is WAY better than the album version. Too bad they couldn't get the sample cleared.
The track with Twista should have been the first single, in my opinion.
"Here Now" is my favorite track.
BDaly
10-08-2004, 02:21 AM
man fuck all this gossip shit, if u really want to know everybody go out and grab the album for yourself...
G_Unit4Life
10-08-2004, 02:21 AM
albums aiight i heard half of dis b4 doe C'Mon is old he did dat in Boston Show
djnick
10-08-2004, 02:28 AM
On the last track thank you he gives shouts out to hollafront and the crew
"holla-front.com go register today, peter jun roc, lisa landy and jay"
Jinetals
10-08-2004, 02:28 AM
just got thru downloading it...listening now..here now is a bunch of recycled verses...
dont worry jin..still gonna cop da album
one trak m1nD
10-08-2004, 02:30 AM
just got thru downloading it...listening now..here now is a bunch of recycled verses...
dont worry jin..still gonna cop da album
You're right, I just realized that.
one trak m1nD
10-08-2004, 02:35 AM
Of course, I'm still coppin Oct. 19th.
I'm just happy that the CD finally dropped.
It's been a long time coming for Jin, and a lot of people here alike.
Congrats.
JinsHypeman2
10-08-2004, 02:39 AM
yea another honest note...the album is okay...i still will cop it though
creep™
10-08-2004, 02:46 AM
1. Intro - lol funny fake white dude offering jin a contract. no score
2. Here Now - Jin. Dont ever do fucking hooks again. 2.5/5
3. Get your Handz off - Been heard it. Beat nice. Lyrics ok 3/5
4. Club Song - Typical Club song Aint really feeling it 2/5
5. The Come Thru Ft Twista - SHOULD have been the first single Lyrics pretty nice but the beat is kinda Plain 4/5(because twista on it)
6. So Afraid - Been heard it. I actually liked this track for some reason. 4/5
7. I Got a Love - Re-sample Its iight i guess not much i can say. 3.5/5
8. Chinese Beats Skit - lmdao that shit was funny 5/5
9. Learn Chinese - Ber. 1/5
10. The Good,The Bad,The Ugly - nothing really great here... 2.5/5
11. Senorita - Beat is nice,Lyrics ok. Just dont do that fucking dance 4/5
12. Love Story - Pretty nice Used a Isley Brothers sample (i think still tired) ill give u a 5/5
13. Cold Outside - Nigga on the track song like LLoyd(not the HF one) overall nice 4/5
14. Cmon - Decent. 3.5/5
15. Karoake Night - Beat is fuckin WACK,Jins lyrics are wack, Styles P Murders it tho 3/5
16. Same Cry - some what a deep track. hook sounds like celian Dion or someshit 3/5
17. Thank you - Beat is nasty,Jin rips it(im not on the thank you so you lose a point.) 4/5
im not counting up the points.. overall like a B-/C+ or something of that nature.
Don Marcos
10-08-2004, 02:50 AM
17. Thank you - Beat is nasty,Jin rips it(im not on the thank you so you lose a point.) 4/5lmao u fool
CrookidZ
10-08-2004, 02:53 AM
Its a solid album, nothing more, nothing less. It's been 3 years and glad too see it finally released. Gonna cop this for sure too support jin and congrats for finally getting it out.
iBlitzz
10-08-2004, 02:54 AM
who wants a link
j/k
clearM3
10-08-2004, 03:04 AM
he didnt impress me and he didnt really disappoint me
its a solid debut and i think its really just been a long time coming. decent cd that you can listen to. Its not a classic or anything but i mean i really didnt expect jin to be droppin a Illmatic type cd. He impressed me though. Way i look at it he can only improve.
ill support and buy a copy still
DMarc
10-08-2004, 03:04 AM
He still gots a while, and I will judge for myself AFTER I buy it. Don't wanna spoil it anymore than it already has been (no offense to the hook-ups on H-F, good looks).
And yeah, drop the whining about promotions... It's all said and done, and it's not like there was much to promote anyways. He's trying to appeal to the core hip-hop niche first, and if the Fight Klub battles aren't enough, then nothing will help him. Just buy the damn album if you want to support him and shut up if you don't.
iBlitzz
10-08-2004, 03:15 AM
16. Same Cry - some what a deep track. hook sounds like celian Dion or someshit 3/5
chick sounds like Britney
Chosun
10-08-2004, 03:25 AM
After first listen, I'd give the album a 7.5 out of 10.
The XXL and Vibe reviews were pretty much on point.
I'd have to agree that The Definition of History was more solid than this.
But then again, maybe that's because by being on this site, I've already heard like half the album, so it's sorta anti-climatic in a sense.
Not to mention that he re-uses some of his freestyle lines in a couple of the tracks...
Overall, it's not bad, but it's not great either.
It's a good effort for a first album though.
Some things:
Haha, the Chinese beats skit is hilarious.
The orginal "Thank You," is WAY better than the album version. Too bad they couldn't get the sample cleared.
The track with Twista should have been the first single, in my opinion.
"Here Now" is my favorite track.
i agree with ya 7.5 out of 10... i was hoping for better, but i wasn't dissapointed.. my favorite "new" tracks are definately cold outside, love story, here now, and karaoke night..the new joint with twista is aight, nothing special.. seniorita is still whack lol.. , but still probably the best single choice, either that or the come thru or the club song(for obvious reasons).. solid album i think, especially for a first album.. i still want a cd quality version of gimmick though, still his best work haha..
yea the chinese beat skit is funny shit. on purely an entertainment level, i enjoyed this. i neva expected jin to come out with a classic like the black album or nothin, but i'll say that i enjoyed these songs, fun to listen to, and i'll be bumpin them
10/10 . :)
I'm biased though lol...
Some of you guys were expecting too much. Its his 1st album I think too many of you expected a Get Rich or Die Tryin . You have to realize that he came directly from freestyling to writing/recording into the studio . Look at the others.. Postaboy, Whyteout, Wreckonize, Backland, etc they dont even have a single out yet
Matt_Jay212
10-08-2004, 04:12 AM
4. Club Song - Typical Club song Aint really feeling it 2/5
That's exactly what I was dreading it was going to be.
cHiNo8
10-08-2004, 04:16 AM
Ayo.....
Learn Chinese, Is Wack, But It Will Be A Classic...everybody Is Talking `bout That Joint..wetta U Find It Wack Or Ight, Or U Black Or White, Peepz Are Talking Bout It. All Eyez On Jin....
He Got Kanye And Twista, And P On His Album.
Minus Point Is Dont Got Check Tha Clock, So Afraid Remix And 4th Chamber..
I Heard All Tha Songs Already, But Im Still Gonna Buy It For Two Simple Reasons...tha Real Thing Is Always Betta Than Tha Pirated Version..cd Hav Betta Quality Etc...pluz He Got To Eat!!!
Second Thang I Support Jin To Tha Fullest...
Tha Azn`s Are Gonna Take Ova
Jin - 1st Chinese Rapper!
Chad - 1st Azn Producer (filipino)
Shinoda - 1st Azn Rap/rocker (jap ~ Nihonjin!!!!)
Han- 1st Azn Dj/rocker (korean)
Ayumi - 1st Azn Pop Princess
Chino - 1st Azn Rapper Outta Europe Coming Soon!!!!!!!!
^ yea, i think check the clock shouldve been on the album too. that track was ill
let me tell u this... if everyone d/l the album.. no one is going to buy it
Chosun
10-08-2004, 04:22 AM
let me tell u this... if everyone d/l the album.. no one is going to buy it
albums get leaked, there is nothing that can be done about that.. people who don't care for his music won't buy it and people who do will..
DMarc
10-08-2004, 04:22 AM
Tha Azn`s Are Gonna Take Ova
Jin - 1st Chinese Rapper!
Chad - 1st Azn Producer (filipino)
Shinoda - 1st Azn Rap/rocker (jap ~ Nihonjin!!!!)
Han- 1st Azn Dj/rocker (korean)
Ayumi - 1st Azn Pop Princess
Chino - 1st Azn Rapper Outta Europe Coming Soon!!!!!!!!
Dude, almost all of your "firsts" are at least seconds or thirds... everybody knows that the Mountain Brothers, Chinaman from 2 Live Crew, and even Southstar made it before Jin got into the game. As for the rest of the categories, I'm too damn tired to look all that other stuff up, but I don't think ANY of the people you listed were truly firsts.
I think pride for your race is a good thing, but I think you just might be going overboard here... Asians taking it over? Haven't we had enough imperialism to last an eternity?
^ so if everyone downloads jay-zs album is noone gonna buy it? No, albums do get leaked ... its natural :)
KLEP ONE
10-08-2004, 04:26 AM
:dj:LISTENING...WILL EDIT WITH A REVIEW.:dj:
:boo:
Phame
10-08-2004, 04:30 AM
The haters can all just
http://www.sicktracks.com/galleries/data/500/580damme20dance.jpg
Anny817
10-08-2004, 04:48 AM
I heard the CD. I liked most of it. One thing bothered me...the THANK YOU song has a diff. beat than the one that was released on here for a short time. I liked that one more than the one on the CD.
Chosun
10-08-2004, 04:49 AM
I heard the CD. I liked most of it. One thing bothered me...the THANK YOU song has a diff. beat than the one that was released on here for a short time. I liked that one more than the one on the CD.
they couldn't clear the sample on the original version.. it's not like they didn't want to use the original, legally they just couldn't
one trak m1nD
10-08-2004, 04:50 AM
I heard the CD. I liked most of it. One thing bothered me...the THANK YOU song has a diff. beat than the one that was released on here for a short time. I liked that one more than the one on the CD.
True, and very unfortunate that they couldn't clear the sample.
It was a smoother track with the orignal beat.
The new beat is distracting.
Love Story is such a sweet song. I love it.
The Come Thru would have been a better single.
The cd is a 10/10 easy.
fungeye916
10-08-2004, 04:51 AM
the album is kool, go dl it..... and buy it. support that asian fellah
The Come Thru is FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
King Jafi III
10-08-2004, 04:55 AM
The cd is a 10/10 easy.be honest...
just heard the album...mad props...im feelin it...keep hatin if yall want but the old thank you was so much better
clearM3
10-08-2004, 05:17 AM
after listening to the cd again
Same Cry is a dope track. Especially for asian people. I think we could all relate to that joint
Phame
10-08-2004, 05:19 AM
^^ Word
what the hell man
been gone for a minute
and that niqqa jin won that puerto rice battle?
senorita video has been shot??
the rest is history got leaked?!?!?!?
and the album hasnt been pushed back (again) yet?
damn i miss out alot
edit
oh yea where can i download this ahhah
AliasX
10-08-2004, 05:35 AM
The Come Thru shoulda been his single.
The signing is hella funny.
I'll still buy it since I'm the only asian in my school.
JerseyCity
10-08-2004, 05:40 AM
what the hell happen to "A little Hungry", i thought XXL gave reviews on that track. it wasnt listed. Oh yeah, and wheres that track Missy Elliot produce for him? `=T
[I STILL BELIEVE THAT "LAST SONG" "THEY DONT KNOW" AND "INNA ZONE" shoulda been on his album. does virgin(or whomever pick the songs to put on the album) have something against picking good tracks?!!]
My Favorite Tracks Are
----------------------
Same Cry - Jin ripped it... beat is good for that type of song. The girl LT hooked it up lovely.
Thank You - He changed the beat, what an idiot... His delivery was better on the old beat. His lyrics were still good. plus showing mad love to HF.
C'Mon - This track is fire. the hottest chorus on his album without a doubt.
Here Now - This track is nasty as hell. He spit this at the Wendy Williams interview. kinda sad. I like jin.. but damn, this cat stay reciting his rhymes `=T
Cold Outside - What can I say? the man is speakin the Truth. I'm feelin this track.
Love Story - From the heart... Everything sounds good as long as its from the heart. I guess this was a good track, especially for all the ladies wondering about his love life.
--------------------------
This was just my opinion anyway... The other songs were either "okay" or bad... nothing impressive. but the ones i listed seems to be the only tracks where he probably actually "tried".
janstuh
10-08-2004, 05:44 AM
i just downloaded it... i haven't listened to it though... but whether or not this cd is hot or not, its copped when it comes out in stores not because of the cd but for the entertainment i got from listening to his battles and freestyles and thats ittttttttt. I know alot of you are just gonna be downloading it but damn, just support him for being him. An Asian MC that started his rise at 106 N Park, Got Signed By The R, got pushed back 1-2 years, killed it at the Puerto Rico Battle, and now finally his album is dropping in less than 2 weeks. Cop That Shit.
THE REST IS HISTORY, Good luck Jin.
JerseyCity
10-08-2004, 05:48 AM
got pushed back 1-2 years
THE REST IS HISTORY, Good luck Jin.
he got pushed back 1-2 years? wow... he did create history.. what rap artist got pushed back for that long? geeez.
billw84x
10-08-2004, 05:48 AM
basically we listened to 7 tracks outta 17 tracks. basically 8 new tracks...
someone failed math class
JerseyCity
10-08-2004, 05:50 AM
^^ i think hes right.. 7 heard of + 8 new ones = 15.. + the 2 skits. 17 tracks overall.. he just didnt count the skits... he was probably mentioning "songs"
dragon5946
10-08-2004, 06:28 AM
where u guys download this from??
KrAzZy LaO bOi
10-08-2004, 06:43 AM
i bet the come thru gonna be the next single.
he got pushed back 1-2 years? wow... he did create history.. what rap artist got pushed back for that long? geeez.
AHAHHAAA
prop'd-a-doc nuggaaa
Don Marcos
10-08-2004, 07:16 AM
^huh....yall have no idea about the music industry if you think artists dont get pushed back..some get pushed back 2,3,4 years...yall have no idea...the only reason why jin's situation is glorified to such a magnitude is because 1, this is his site, and 2, his career started in the public eye from 106 and park..so he was already anticipated from the start..the bottom line is that many artists projects are pushed back..yet you have no idea because you didnt even know they existed until their album actually was released and it becomes a thing of the past..once it's out..it's out.
creep™
10-08-2004, 07:19 AM
^huh....yall have no idea about the music industry if you think artists dont get pushed back..some get pushed back 2,3,4 years...yall have no idea...the only reason why jin's situation is glorified to such a magnitude is because 1, this is his site, and 2, his career started in the public eye from 106 and park..so he was already anticipated from the start..the bottom line is that many artists projects are pushed back..yet you have no idea because you didnt even know they existed until their album actually was released and it becomes a thing of the past..once it's out..it's out.
http://img7.exs.cx/img7/5490/weirdassavy.gif :rocket:
GNUG™
10-08-2004, 08:38 AM
its funny ill buy big L lifestylez ov da poor and dangerous even thos i have it burned on like 4 cd already but wont cop jins album lol
M-roc
10-08-2004, 09:20 AM
Ayo.....
Learn Chinese, Is Wack, But It Will Be A Classic
It wont be a classic
Jin - 1st Chinese Rapper!
Chad - 1st Azn Producer (filipino) (ok)
Shinoda - 1st Azn Rap/rocker (jap ~ Nihonjin!!!!) (Nope)
Han- 1st Azn Dj/rocker (korean) (DJ Honda kills that man on the dj side)
Ayumi - 1st Azn Pop Princess ( I only agree with you on that)
Chino - 1st Azn Rapper Outta Europe Coming Soon!!!!!!!!
(I dont know about that)
GNUG™
10-08-2004, 09:29 AM
The haters can all just
http://www.sicktracks.com/galleries/data/500/580damme20dance.jpg
you know van damme will beat your ass like he beats his wife for insulting him...be he is dancing very gay
Toilet
10-08-2004, 09:58 AM
If this is true, I aint gonna buy it !!! LOL my money already gone through to my cousin....
*MSN my cousin to keep the receipt*
UrMainPriority
10-08-2004, 10:12 AM
to be honest i don't think jin is gonna get any mainstream love off of this album, i've heard most of it and there's some tracks but he's gonna have to stretch it.
JiN Da EmCeE
10-08-2004, 10:17 AM
HAVE LISTENIN OR DOWNLOADED ANY SONGS YET IM WAITING TO BUY THE ALBUM UNLIKE SOME PPL
d-plao
10-08-2004, 10:35 AM
yo jus got done listenin to the album and jus thought i'd give my .02.
To be honest the album is not that bad like everyone seems to be sayin it is. I enjoy'd it, it's somethin i'll thump in my car. Gonna cop me a copy on OCT.19TH...............
Gfresh
10-08-2004, 10:36 AM
downloading it now. can't wait to listen..
im still coppin the orignal album..
e-flow
10-08-2004, 10:56 AM
what happened to music is for life?? sample problems wit that too???
this album is truly from the heart with deep lyrics from same cry, love story, and come on and pretty much the whole album. props jin.
I bet the COme Thru is the next single....
Learn Chinese - buzz single. Lets everybody know that this Chinese kid has game.
Senorita - Official Single. Jin reppin his homage, Miami (like how other artists declare where they are from Eminem - detroit, nelly- st. louis.)
The Come Thru -Should be next single. Club Banger that will further improve Jins reputation as an artist and sell more records.
blackhaven
10-08-2004, 12:04 PM
all u people who keep asking were they're gettin the album from...hit me up on aim an i'll give it to you covers and all....but if u like it please support the artist, he has to eat just like we do...i bought it an if u like it u should 2.
blakhaven=AIM SCREEN NAME
Some nice songs, but I expected a bit more. I give it about a 7 out of 10, but keep in mind, I like beats, and there is some nice production on the CD. I didnt like the skits either. the Chinese Beats one was a little but humourous, but still.
nobodyimportant
10-08-2004, 12:19 PM
I think after listening to the album... I might actually buy the CD now.
It's a lot better than I expected after hearing Learn Chinese and Cmon.
Jin... and all of us (his fans) should be very proud of his efforts.
blackhaven
10-08-2004, 12:25 PM
http://www.angelfire.com/music6/prayinchild/00-jin-the_rest_is_history-2004-_scan-front_-rtb.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/music6/prayinchild/00-jin-the_rest_is_history-2004-_scan-cd_-rtb.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/music6/prayinchild/00-jin-the_rest_is_history-2004-_scan-back_-rtb.jpg
azianriceisgood
10-08-2004, 12:27 PM
album is hot, imma buy this fosho!
GNUG™
10-08-2004, 12:46 PM
you wouldent mind makin them bigger would you?like real size? lol
DMarc
10-08-2004, 01:51 PM
Seems the general consensus is 7/10. Not bad.
Anny817
10-08-2004, 01:55 PM
what the hell happen to "A little Hungry", i thought XXL gave reviews on that track. it wasnt listed. Oh yeah, and wheres that track Missy Elliot produce for him? `=T
[I STILL BELIEVE THAT "LAST SONG" "THEY DONT KNOW" AND "INNA ZONE" shoulda been on his album. does virgin(or whomever pick the songs to put on the album) have something against picking good tracks?!!]
My Favorite Tracks Are
----------------------
Same Cry - Jin ripped it... beat is good for that type of song. The girl LT hooked it up lovely.
Thank You - He changed the beat, what an idiot... His delivery was better on the old beat. His lyrics were still good. plus showing mad love to HF.
C'Mon - This track is fire. the hottest chorus on his album without a doubt.
Here Now - This track is nasty as hell. He spit this at the Wendy Williams interview. kinda sad. I like jin.. but damn, this cat stay reciting his rhymes `=T
Cold Outside - What can I say? the man is speakin the Truth. I'm feelin this track.
Love Story - From the heart... Everything sounds good as long as its from the heart. I guess this was a good track, especially for all the ladies wondering about his love life.
--------------------------
This was just my opinion anyway... The other songs were either "okay" or bad... nothing impressive. but the ones i listed seems to be the only tracks where he probably actually "tried".
Jin said awhile back that Missy "fronted" and we already discussed about THANK YOU in the past posts..check out page 2.
d-plao
10-08-2004, 02:09 PM
7/10 gea gea!!!!!
one trak m1nD
10-08-2004, 02:10 PM
After listening it through again, I think it's a very solid effort for a debut CD.
I would haved liked to see The Good, The Bad and the Ugly replaced with Music Is For Life though.
Chosun
10-08-2004, 02:16 PM
After listening it through again, I think it's a very solid effort for a debut CD.
I would haved liked to see The Good, The Bad and the Ugly replaced with Music Is For Life though.
so true.. the good bad and the ugly is so generic...i think it's the only "new" song i heard from jin and told myself "ehh so ordinary".. music is for life had a lot of style, it was pretty unique, it would have given his album more versatility.. *cough*while i'm at it, gimmick should have been a bonus track :o
evilkokonut
10-08-2004, 02:20 PM
i'm not downloading... i ruin every cd by doing that. this year i'm gonna not listen to the leak for this cd and encore. i've waited so long... whats 1.5 more weeks
janstuh
10-08-2004, 02:21 PM
music for life shouldve replaced the good, the bad, the ugly.
rating 7/10. if it was with music for life it would've been 8/10
^ I sort of agree with that, would've been better if it just would've been added instead of replacing anything though. I'm guessing there were sample clearance problems?
abc12345
10-08-2004, 03:38 PM
Is it just me or anybody else find Thank You (Leak) better then Thank You (Album) ???
Trak Starz
10-08-2004, 03:41 PM
album cover is alright... his mixtape covers were better thought
janstuh
10-08-2004, 03:42 PM
abc, they had to change the beat cause they couldn't get the sample cleared.
JinsHypeman2
10-08-2004, 03:47 PM
alright alright...i have been listening to the album....over and over..and songs are getting better now...
abc12345
10-08-2004, 03:56 PM
abc, they had to change the beat cause they couldn't get the sample cleared.
Yea, I replied before I read the tread
zfutur3
10-08-2004, 04:04 PM
Wow, I think this album is fire..... im going to cop it for sure.8/10
ChAn...
10-08-2004, 04:11 PM
howd yall hear the album already? did it get leaked or somethin?
2krazy
10-08-2004, 04:12 PM
That Thank You song reminds me of one of them LMF - THANK YOUs songs
abc12345
10-08-2004, 04:15 PM
howd yall hear the album already? did it get leaked or somethin?
Yea it leaked, what do you think this whole tread is about? :wink:
Bionic
10-08-2004, 04:17 PM
Jin, so far I'm at the come thru track, so far, SO GOOD. I am proud that you used the "gimmick" lyrics for "here now", TIGHT man!!! I'll reply again for more review.
ScottSauce
10-08-2004, 04:34 PM
WHY THE HELL ISN'T MUSIC FOR LIFE ON THE ALBUM!!!!! anyway, i ain't hearing nothing cause i'ma cop that album but can someone upload the original THank You track that all y'all are talking about cause i never heard it? Thanks.
zfutur3
10-08-2004, 04:43 PM
The come thru is HOT! He should have used this as the single instead
DMarc
10-08-2004, 04:45 PM
If it's as hot as you everyone says it is, "The Come Thru" should be the next video- as long as his album gets decent sales, they'll at least make one more video.
listened to it a couple of times now.. and its pretty good.. definetly worth buyin..
asndragonboii
10-08-2004, 04:58 PM
5/10 the tracks not posted on HF
7.5/10 Whole album
AsianSensation
10-08-2004, 05:02 PM
^ - I haven't heard all of it yet, but yeah one trak put it nicely.
The chinese beats skits had me laughing.
The first "Thank You" is better.
haven't heard the Twista track. missing track 5, 10, 11, 13, 14.
now don't get on my ass...i'll buy it when it comes out just to support him in the game.
theres this one track bout tenamen square and being chinese and stuff...100 OUT OF 10. such a tight song...
"you think we open restraunt cause we good at cooking?"
soooooo fucking tru
MzBebyDee
10-08-2004, 05:22 PM
am I Missin Something Here?!?! How Did You People Get The Album Already?!?!
StreetBalla
10-08-2004, 05:29 PM
yeah, this album is borderline average/good, which is pretty damn good for a first album. Though Senorita was a good track, i think the jumpoff should have been the Just Blaze track, Club Song. I will def. buy this album since it exceeded my expectations (i thought it was gonna suck).
where did u guys download it?!? ahh!!
iBlitzz
10-08-2004, 06:12 PM
where did u guys download it?!? ahh!!
dont worry bout it, go buy it
the return of smigg
10-08-2004, 06:17 PM
i think its funny that sence iv been postin here ppl were always like jin sucks hes wack the only thing he has that is good is his frees now everyones on the mans dick like hes the next best thing ....kinda sad if ur gonna say he sucks one minute then u cant wait for his album to come out ...i uno kinda wierd to me
technique™
10-08-2004, 06:18 PM
dled the album already but still going to buy it though...
dont worry bout it, go buy it
hey, go fuck yourself, im d/l'n it.
im still going to buy the album. and oh yea , fuck you
dashiet
10-08-2004, 06:28 PM
Wow I really like Same Cry
Trak Starz
10-08-2004, 07:25 PM
For the record i just want to say that when october 19th rolls around i am still going to cop Jin's debut album because he been on the grind since day 1 working hard promoting, appearing on mixtapes, touring across the country, reppin all us asians to the fullest..However i'll have to be honest and say that i am actually dissapointment with the album not feelin' most of the songs and i am not a hater i been a fan of his since he won the freestyle friday on 106 and park.. for freestyles no one can touch him he straight fire but for songs he aint there just yet.. maybe on the next album and in the future he'll do better...it's all good thought not all artists blow up at first. I'll explain the reason why i did'nt think the album was good again this is just my opinion and what i think..everyone has their opinion and different taste in beats.
1.) Intro - was crap 0/5
2.)Here Now - no comment 0/5
3.) Get Your Hands Off - why does it say feat. swizz beats on it.. didnt neo da matrix produce this? overall the beat is sick i love it.. good vocals 5/5
4.) Club Song - vocals and beat horrible.. for a Just Blaze joint..could of been better..i don't see why Just Blaze did'nt pick a better beat..he gets an extra point just because Just Blaze shouts his name and it sounds good 2/5
5.) The Come Thru - an ok joint was so hyped up over it months ago when heard about that colabo but Twista does not spit as hard as he normally would like other joints such as Slow Jams, Overnight Celebrity, So Sexy 1 & 2, Freak-A-Leak Remix, Got It Twisted Remix... his vocals could of been alot better..i am not sure who did the beat but instrumental i was'nt feeling but after a few more listens i might like the song better.. i tend to do that alot..like when On Fire by Lloyd Banks came out i did'nt like but liked it a month later... a video should be made for this track. 3.5/5
6.) So Afraid - vocals matches the beat nicely..for some odd reason i like this one in my mind i think the beat is wack but i like it... 4/5
kwame produced an ok joint on this one..I think this is a 2nd single so is there goin be a video?..WHY DID'NT THEY INCLUDE THE REMIX ON THE ALBUM AS A BONUS TRACK AT LEAST. Styles P. did a good job on the remix.
7.)I Got A Love - awsome song.. good vocals, good beat, good colabo... but Kanye should be in it spitting a verse instead of just the chorus..why did'nt they MAKE A VIDEO FOR THIS??? 5/5
8.) Chinese Beats (Skit) - stupid 0/5
9.) Learn Chinese - isn't this suposed to feat. Ayeesha not Wyflef i am confused???
this was never meant to be a single it was a buzz record just to get him out there so i am not expecting much out of this..not the best song out there but its ok 3/5
10.) The Good, The Bad & The Ugly - don't like it 1/5
11.) Senorita - who produced this beat? i love this song everything was good the beat is bangin and the vocals are pefect.. a perfect choice for a 1st single...i can see this going on the radio and getting alot of spins...hopefully the video is bangin as well. 5/5
12.) Love Story - who is aja smith is she in RR? track is alright not too bad i like the beat. 3.5/5
13.) Cold Outside - not sure who Lfye is but i did'nt like the joint 0/5
14.) C'Mon - *shakes head* what went wrong..vocals are wack but the beat is not too bad for some reason i could see Xzibit spittin on those and making it better. 2/5
15.) Karoake Night - the beat is garbage sounds like its at a circus freakshow or something... Styles P. lays it down thought..thats the only thing that makes the track stand out 2.5/5
16.) Same Cry - features. LT the new girl on their Ruff Pop label...she can sing but that colabo did'nt work at all.. another dissapointing track 1/5
17.) Thank You - good chillin beat i like this...who produced this joint? 5/5
Overall final rating = 43/85 = 51% gets a passing grade in my grade book by 2%
my favorite songs on the album have to be "Senorita", Get Your Hands Off", I Gotta Love" & "Thank You" the joints that were not my favorite but ok in my book are
"Love Story", "So Afraid" & "The Come Thru"
Virgin Records did not a good job on promoting Jin.. they did'nt do shit..no ads in hiphop magazines..other artists who's cd don't even come out for anothr 2-3 months have ads in magazines already...no videos for other songs such as I Gotta Love, Get Your Hands Off..did get those songs out there to make a buzz on radio, tv etc.
For such a stacked roster The family did'nt get others to colabo with Jin on the album.. people that should of lent their helping hand..people like Jadakiss, Jae-Hood, Sheek Louch, Cassidy, Mashonda, Drag-On, DMX...althought Eve is gone he could of did a joint with her when she was part of the team.. and what ever happend to the Missy Elliot produced beat and the Redman colabo...heck he should of asked Ludacris to lay a helping hand they worked together on 2 Fast 2 Furious. Again i am not a hater i am a big Jin fan and still am even thought i did'nt like the album much and first day it come out i am still going to buy it.. GOOD LUCK JIN with the sales but i don't know if it will go gold if it does props to u i wish the best...maybe on next album.. the beats will better and the colabos will go good.
ch0p$TiCKzz
10-08-2004, 07:37 PM
I downloaded 2 of his songs "Cold Outside" and "The Come Thru"....Both were pretty decent, not that good not that bad. But I'm still gon cop the album though.
Barry
10-08-2004, 07:41 PM
If "The Come Thru" Is after Senorita then it's gon be hot cause i can imagine the video
disla0boi
10-08-2004, 07:47 PM
shut up your not cool ( you kno who u are )
iBlitzz
10-08-2004, 07:51 PM
hey, go fuck yourself, im d/l'n it.
im still going to buy the album. and oh yea , fuck you
ok no link for you then
ch0p$TiCKzz
10-08-2004, 08:03 PM
who wants the link??? Holla' at me for the link!!! a'ite
drunkn
10-08-2004, 08:11 PM
I will rate this all with emoticons
1.) Intro - :deal:
2.)Here Now - :noway: 1/5
3.) Get Your Hands Off - Everyone heard it awhile back :jam: 4/5
4.) Club Song - Just Blaze! it was ok 3/5 :sleeping:
5.) The Come Thru - Would of made the best first single. I kinda like this track. :grunge: 5/5
6.) So Afraid - :lala: Kinda catchy. Beats good. 4/5
7.)I Got A Love - Heard it looooooooong time ago. 4/5
8.) Chinese Beats (Skit) - :wgaf: made me chuckle
9.) Learn Chinese - :shot: yea 1/5
10.) The Good, The Bad & The Ugly - :wtf: 1/5
11.) Senorita - aww shake it senorita :banana: 4/5
12.) Love Story - Kinda grew on me :smlove: 5/5
13.) Cold Outside - It was ok :| 3/5
14.) C'Mon - :mrt: 2/5
15.) Karoake Night - Styles saved this track :headoff: 3/5
16.) Same Cry - :( makes me cry 4/5
17.) Thank You - Beats fire and fun to listen to 5/5 :joint:
OVERALL - I think its like a 6/7 / 10
ok no link for you then
lmao..thats alright, ive got the album, thank you.
billw84x
10-08-2004, 08:29 PM
here now- lyrics sound like something he used in a radio station/mixtape freestyle
PLan Z
10-08-2004, 08:42 PM
yo does anyone know if his old songs like OH NO and Holla Front gonna be on the album at all.... cuz i thought those were some hot tracks
billw84x
10-08-2004, 08:45 PM
nope they arent.. oh thank god, they arent
PLan Z
10-08-2004, 08:47 PM
o yea and where di u guys get the album? kazaa?
MzBebyDee
10-08-2004, 08:48 PM
wow i can't believe the cd got leaked already
MzBebyDee
10-08-2004, 08:49 PM
alright alright...i have been listening to the album....over and over..and songs are getting better now...
i thought u was suppose to be hatin on Jin lol
billw84x
10-08-2004, 08:52 PM
o yea and where di u guys get the album? kazaa?
nope. but will be soon.
i seriously feel sorry for jin. as a fellow HF'er, we were all worried how much he's actually gonna sell, now its available for download several days b4 its release... sad
i think i might buy two out of pity
PLan Z
10-08-2004, 08:57 PM
lol ^ what he said.... seriously... don't download it yet... we can all wait... unless u get shot... ehem... but anywayz its only bout a week and a half away... i might buy two and give one to my baby cousin...
SAME CRY...best song ever. i dont think theres ever been another song i related to more than that
PLan Z
10-08-2004, 09:00 PM
ok... one simple question... WHERE DO U GUYS GET IT OFF???? ITS NOT ON KAZAA OR ARES OR LIMEWIRE>>>> FUCK!!!!
GNUG™
10-08-2004, 09:05 PM
wow i can't believe the cd got leaked already
i was gonna leak it but people beat me to it and i didnt get home yesterday till like 2 am and by then people leaked it and got banned already lol
Aybee
10-08-2004, 09:08 PM
Its a solid album I dont agree wit most of the song by song review...but am I the only one that actually like the original thank you? I mean the lyrics n the "emotion" of the song n lyrics was soundin way betta on the original beat n o yea ..whut the fuck is up wit music is for life not bein on the album?
technique™
10-08-2004, 09:39 PM
yea "same cry" is a good song lol
naces186
10-08-2004, 09:46 PM
did he reuse some line in "club song" ? cause I think I heard some of these verses before on his other mixtape song...
MzBebyDee
10-08-2004, 09:50 PM
i was gonna leak it but people beat me to it and i didnt get home yesterday till like 2 am and by then people leaked it and got banned already lol
lol oh damn. i'm curious...how did some of you get it already?
asndragonboii
10-08-2004, 09:54 PM
the album isnt THAT bad... it could have been as worse as cassidy's
well a day after gettin it, i'm still playin this and all the songs hav grown on me and every song is bumpable. the reason ppl hate on this is coz hes not very serious on this album, ppl look at him like chingy, competely commcerial. but oh well.
dont expect his first week sales to be high, hes a debuting artist. unless u got hype like 50 Cent u wont sell like him. senorita will drop soon and hopefully the mainstream catches on and week after week his album sales will climb.
billw84x
10-08-2004, 09:59 PM
the album isnt THAT bad... it could have been as worse as cassidy's
actually listening to it, yea it isn't THAT bad.
its worth buying imo
MzBebyDee
10-08-2004, 10:04 PM
i'm not gonna DL this. coz number one, my computer is 56k, number two, i'm buyin it regardless.
ill-matic
10-08-2004, 10:08 PM
its pretty good not the worst but its iights ima still buy it
GNUG™
10-08-2004, 10:10 PM
wow 56k.....didnt know 56k still exsisted lol...apon further plays sadly the cd is ok...not enough to buy but its ok
Aybee
10-08-2004, 10:23 PM
yea he did in the fisrt frees he drop right after he got signed i think he used them lines in the "holla at a playa "freestyle i think...
MzBebyDee
10-08-2004, 10:35 PM
i DLed ONE song though.....LOVE STORY......it's a cute song and i like it and it's good...on one note...makin me sadd...because all i want to do is fall in love but i can't do that because there's no one to fall in love with!! =(
nanquanmama
10-08-2004, 10:49 PM
overall.. this album is ok for a debut album. Like most of y'all, I expected a 'bit more though.. I can give this a 7/10. Everything's good or average except for these 3 tracks (I really didn't feel them) : Here now :shot: (wow, the hook is just horrible) the good, the bad & the Ugly (wtf ?) and Karaoke Night (only part listenable was Styles P's part) are GARBAGE. Songs like Music is for life, Last song and They don't know could of easily replaced these craps.
AznSouja
10-08-2004, 11:30 PM
finally after years of waiting and downloading tons of his songs
Gfresh
10-08-2004, 11:32 PM
i downloaded it..
club song is fire...
the rest are good too
the skit was funny lol.. heaps fukd up beats
PLan Z
10-08-2004, 11:58 PM
where the hell do u guys download his songs?
Gfresh
10-09-2004, 12:00 AM
dont think we're allowed to tell you :P
look around... its been leaked
HOLY SHIT!!
STOP ASKING WHERE TO DOWNLOAD IT
BUY THE FUCKING CD!!!!!!!!
i downloaded it..and havten listened to more than 2 songs........
GNUG™
10-09-2004, 01:18 AM
i was gonna up it for someone else but i siad fuck it im lazy and dont want to wait the 95 mins for it to upload....so yeah your shit out of luck spend the 11.99 that i wont spend
Ruthless
10-09-2004, 01:36 AM
I went to another site and saw a lot of people kinda surprised and they were saying it was better than they expected. Most of them said 7/10 or 7.5/10. Hopefully they weren't just people from Holla Front looking for a link to download it because it kinda seemed like it.
aznboykillabeez
10-09-2004, 01:50 AM
Even if it didn't get leaked in the first place it will end up in file sharing networks in no time once it gets released... so i dont think getting leaked a few weeks early will affect the sales much.. I'll be honest, jin had better tracks lyrically in the mixtape and he should show more of his lyrical skill like what he did in the mixtape on his next albums. Songs like Cmon(4/5)(the aol live version was a bit better cuz ther was no studio edits on the sound n shit but still a great track), got a love(4/5), hands off(4/5), here now(4/5) great lyric delivery but hook cuda been better, so afraid(4.5/5)(should of had styles p on it, would be better) i loved the solo track too, gets better everytime u listen to it. Karaoke Night(3.5/5) Hook n lyrics cuda been better.. senorita(4/5)could work a better hook or lyrics...same cry(4/5) was pretty good but its different, pretty weird hearing sum pop singer collabo with jin the first time, jin was too laid back when rhymin tho, Come thru(3.5/5)was also pretty good but lyrically could be better and jins delivery shoulda been better..learn chinese(3.5/5 wasn't as bad as critics make it out to be its just real different from how the mainstream listeners look at it). Club song was pretty empty track, altho it wasnt that bad, thers no meaning to it.. Jin should stay away from makin these songs cuz its meaningless and delivery and hook was mediocre.Good bad the ugly (2.5/5) Another meaningless track, lyrically shitty, im not sure whos this about or what its about. Cold outside(4/5) was a deep honest track lyrically rly good but i dont rly feel the beat 7.5/10 for debut album, altho not a perfect album, he got 17 tracks and half of it are really good, other rappers only got 1 hit off their whole album and rarely make more than 12 tracks..he should make more tracks that show his feelings n anger like how he battles.
When jin freestyle battles...the crowds goes nuts, almost fuckin crazy like...
But at jin rap shows...the crowds doesnt really feel the vibe...
i would post the link to the whole album..but this thread would be erased..!!!
Wanna pm the link?
billw84x
10-09-2004, 05:04 AM
Even if it didn't get leaked in the first place it will end up in file sharing networks in no time once it gets released... so i dont think getting leaked a few weeks early will affect the sales much.. I'll be honest, jin had better tracks lyrically in the mixtape and he should show more of his lyrical skill like what he did in the mixtape on his next albums. Songs like Cmon(4/5)(the aol live version was a bit better cuz ther was no studio edits on the sound n shit but still a great track), got a love(4/5), hands off(4/5), here now(4/5) great lyric delivery but hook cuda been better, so afraid(4.5/5)(should of had styles p on it, would be better) i loved the solo track too, gets better everytime u listen to it. Karaoke Night(3.5/5) Hook n lyrics cuda been better.. senorita(4/5)could work a better hook or lyrics...same cry(4/5) was pretty good but its different, pretty weird hearing sum pop singer collabo with jin the first time, jin was too laid back when rhymin tho, Come thru(3.5/5)was also pretty good but lyrically could be better and jins delivery shoulda been better..learn chinese(3.5/5 wasn't as bad as critics make it out to be its just real different from how the mainstream listeners look at it). Club song was pretty empty track, altho it wasnt that bad, thers no meaning to it.. Jin should stay away from makin these songs cuz its meaningless and delivery and hook was mediocre.Good bad the ugly (2.5/5) Another meaningless track, lyrically shitty, im not sure whos this about or what its about. Cold outside(4/5) was a deep honest track lyrically rly good but i dont rly feel the beat 7.5/10 for debut album, altho not a perfect album, he got 17 tracks and half of it are really good, other rappers only got 1 hit off their whole album and rarely make more than 12 tracks..he should make more tracks that show his feelings n anger like how he battles.
paragraphs are your friend
aznboykillabeez
10-09-2004, 05:33 AM
paragraphs are your friend
sorry was 2 lazy........
matchus
10-09-2004, 09:03 AM
that shit was terrible! good freestyler YES!! good song writter NO!!!
Maklo
10-09-2004, 09:33 AM
got to this site : www...... not posting da link. The album is aight, Yeah, better than I thought :D
the album is pretty damn good for a first drop. from the "singles", the album was leaning towards the weak side, but there definately are some solid tracks on the album.
all i got to say is for all the people who said fuck jin cause he's not posting on the net and shit anymore, and that he doesn't care, and how sold out and shit... i just gotta give him props for the Thank You track. what artists do you know signed to a major is gonna give props to the people specifically who got em there? how many artists you know gives shouts on an album to the people who run his fan sites, and the peoples who keep his audio/videos circulating the internet. shouting out the plague and street light poets and all that ish... that's pretty fresh to me
AliasX
10-09-2004, 12:42 PM
His video is debuting Tuesday? or that Friday before?
Langteck
10-10-2004, 12:49 AM
Wow i haven't been on this board for a long time and i can't seem to remember my old username unless they reset everybody's name but anyways, i just now listened to "the rest is history" and i must say i am surprised. i thought this album was going to mediocre at best but man....was i wrong or what. after this i am really giving jin props. i always gave him respect as a battle rapper but he has now proven to me that he can write good music. this album is really stayin true to the essence of hip hop. he has all the elements in this album. THe songs i'm feeling the must is prolly cold outside, , the come thru, love story and same cry. Most of the album is pretty good. i would say maybe 1 or 2 songs i wasn't feeling. But this album is MOS DEFinitely a classic in my opinion. I remember last year i was one of the peeps that was like man "jin is wack!" he has gain my respect. i am definitely pickin up the album october 19th.
review: 8.5/10
1. intro/signing
9/10 funny intro. welcome to ruff ryders.
2. here now
8/10 i like this song. iono why ppl sayin he shouldn't do the chorus. if u guys haven't notice a lot of peeps from ruff ryders sing their own chorus. ex. jadakiss, dmx, drag on. good lyrics and nice beat.
3. get your hands off
10/10 this song is fire. str8 fire. lovin the beat. loving the lyrics. good production.
4. club song
9/10 hot beat. okay lyrics. good chorus.
5. the come thru
9.5/10 hot song. i'm lovin jin's verses along with twista in this song. fire!
6. so afraid
8/10 str8 hip hop
7. i got a love
9/10 i gave this song a point higher, because i can relate to this song, haha but on the real its good kanye west production. i do think jin's delivery could be a lil better.
8. chinese beats (skit)
8/10 its a funny skit.
9. learn chinese
6.5/10 i really like the concept of the song and what hes tryin to point out, but it just sounds corny. he could've done it better.
10. the good, the bad, and the ugly
7/10. the guy doin the chorus sounds like biggie.okay song
11. Senorita
9/10 shake it, shake it, shake it senorita.
12. love story
9/10 i can relate to this song :) that girl singing the chorus sounds cute.
13. cold outside
8/10 good song. like the lyrics. nice beat.
14. c'mon
8/10 sounds like a dre beat. nice
15. karaoke nite
7/10 okay song. okay beat.
13. same cry
9/10 just listen to it.
14. thank you
7/10 i took a point out kuz i like the other beat better.
KhmerBoi21
10-10-2004, 01:14 AM
His video is debuting Tuesday? or that Friday before?
Tuesday....
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for my review, i give it a 8/10
fav. tracks : Same Cry, Here Now, Love Story, and Thank You
as for the rest of the album, it's hot... i could listen to the album from track 1 through 17 without skiping a track... i've been waiting for this for a long time, and this is what i expected and a lot more... i'll cop the album fo sure...
Gfresh
10-10-2004, 01:43 AM
yeh the other beat to thank you was better
but still.. its good
pinoy187joe
10-10-2004, 03:17 AM
Ayo.....
Learn Chinese, Is Wack, But It Will Be A Classic...everybody Is Talking `bout That Joint..wetta U Find It Wack Or Ight, Or U Black Or White, Peepz Are Talking Bout It. All Eyez On Jin....
He Got Kanye And Twista, And P On His Album.
Minus Point Is Dont Got Check Tha Clock, So Afraid Remix And 4th Chamber..
I Heard All Tha Songs Already, But Im Still Gonna Buy It For Two Simple Reasons...tha Real Thing Is Always Betta Than Tha Pirated Version..cd Hav Betta Quality Etc...pluz He Got To Eat!!!
Second Thang I Support Jin To Tha Fullest...
Tha Azn`s Are Gonna Take Ova
Jin - 1st Chinese Rapper!
Chad - 1st Azn Producer (filipino)
Shinoda - 1st Azn Rap/rocker (jap ~ Nihonjin!!!!)
Han- 1st Azn Dj/rocker (korean)
Ayumi - 1st Azn Pop Princess
Chino - 1st Azn Rapper Outta Europe Coming Soon!!!!!!!!
LEARN CHINESE WONT BE A CLASSIC!!!
JIN AINT DA 1ST CHINESE RAPPER....
BUT CHAD IS DA FIRST PINOY PRODUCER!!!!
BY THA WAY I GIVE ALBUM 3.5/5
Chadalack
10-10-2004, 03:37 AM
You dont Buy an Album beacuse it "Doesnt Suck"
lmao
btw i love it when people talk about a chad that is not me.
PLan Z
10-10-2004, 05:54 AM
its pretty good for a debut album.... overall rating: 8.5/10
Fav Song= Love story & Same Cry(<---- quality for same cry sucked tho)
AhSingJai
10-10-2004, 06:21 AM
Come thru and Saem Cry were good tracks. I think it's great that he had some good tracks, most albums would have 1-2 songs that are good. He got a few. 8/10
sensaZn
10-10-2004, 07:19 AM
hot album, on fuckin fire. only a few average songs most were good. 8+/10 great debut
Prodigy
10-10-2004, 08:11 AM
so um. does australia have a release date for it yet?
*twiddles thumbs*
Gfresh
10-10-2004, 08:18 AM
^ im guessin 2-3 weeks after
Freddy
10-10-2004, 08:31 AM
GOOD ALBUM! It took an hour or two, but i listened through it and it's good.
Warning: All you Jin haters move along and skip this post
Now to curious Jin fans, this is what i think of the album, and yes, im biased.
Intro - lol dumb - unratable
Here Now - not bad beat, song is ok - 6.5
Get Your Handz Off - always liked this - 8.5
Club Song - totally not feeling this one, flow is kinda wack - 4
The Come Thru ft Twista - damn this song is pretty sick - 7.5
So Afraid - old stuff :P , this song is still good - 8
I Got A Love - older stuff...lol its okay, kinda addictive - 7
Chinese Beats (skit) - hahaha lol...unratable but its jokes LOL
Learn Chinese - the last skit flows nicely into this song. old stuff - 6.5
Senorita - this song will make or break Jin, looks like make :P - 9.5
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly - hmm i dunno about this song, give it 6 for the beat i guess
Love Story - pretty nice song - 7.5
Cold Outside - not feeling this song - 5
Cmon - heard this already, but its still nice - 7.5
Karaoke Night - not feeling this one either, beat is kinda cool tho - 5
Same Cry - yea, deep, the beat is surprisingly different, but its pretty nice. respect. - 7
Thank You - the new beat isnt too bad, - 7
Alright as an album id give this album probably a 7 or 7.5, its fairly decent for Jin, fairly average on all songs, fo sho imma cop this album.
my 2 cents
The Rest IS History.
^ Wtf you don't like Cold Outside?
^ lol i dont know yet, that was my first time thru the CD, im sure if i listented tothe CD more id probably grow more fond of it, but that woudl give me an even more biased opinion
FiNeAzNKiD
10-10-2004, 01:18 PM
My review on The Rest is History
1. Intro
2.Here Now- Wasnt really feeling it. Didn't like the beat. Its about him being a gimmick. He shoulda put the song GIMMICK in instead. 1.5/5
3. Get your handz off me- I love the beat. Good lyrics. Solid song. 4.5/5
4. Club Song- I love the beat, Jin shoulda actually spit a hook about girls and shit instead of just saying its his club song. I think people could have figured it out just by listening to the song. Whatta waste of a good beat..the song coulda been really good. 3.5/5
5. The Come Thru ft. Twista- Solid Song. Beat was mad plain but I liked it..mostly because of Twista tho. 4/5
6. So Afraid- I really liked this song actually. He flowed well to the beat, hook is mad catchy. Very good lyrics. 4.5/5
7. I Got A Love ft. Kanye- Lyrics are bad. Catchy hook. I liked the beat even tho it was from Overnight Celebrity. Kanye pretty much saved this song with his catchy hook. 4/5
8. Some gay skit..didnt think it was funny at all. He shoulda put another song in instead...
9. Learn Chinese- Didnt like this song. He shoulda made it either funny or serious...and he was trying to do both in my opinion. 2/5
10. The Good,The Bad, and The Ugly- This song wasnt bad. The beat was kinda funky. He told a story about some guy and it woulda been better if the story itself didnt suck ass. I liked the hook...who did the hook? 3/5
11. Senorita- Shit was mad catchy. Good hook, solid lyrics. Very mainstream friendly. 4.5/5
12. Love Story- Loved the beat. Loved the song. Loved the hook. 5/5
13. Cold Outside- Jin confesses to not being a thug gangster. He also talks about LS. I liked the song..wasnt bad. 3.5/5
14. C'mon- This song was off the hook. I liked it from AOL sessions more for some reason haha. One of his best songs lyrically. 4/5
15. Karoake Night- Terrible beat. Reminds me of Oh No. Styles P made this song a little bit better...they shoulda kept him on the So Afraid song or feature in him in a song that didnt suck ass. 2/5
16. Same Cry- I really liked this song. Jin spits some deep shit about the things happening in China. I liked the beat..reminds me of one of those Korean rap songs. 4/5
17. Thank You- Basically a song of him shouting out everybody he knew. 3/5
Over all the album gotta 53.5/75 which is like a 7 out of 10 overall, which is solid for a debut album. He shoulda put I Dont Know, Gimmick, Peel Off, I loved You, or Check the Clock in it..woulda made it better in my opinion. Just my 2 cents. The album is worth buying. I know I'ma buy it.
asndragonboii
10-11-2004, 12:07 AM
Doesnt "Club Song's" beat sound like that Bow wow song? The first single off his latest album.
Version One
10-11-2004, 12:27 AM
this is a pretty good album. definitely worth buying. i like the old thank you better... but this new one's got a pretty chill beat too.
wizll
10-11-2004, 12:49 AM
it is good enough for me to purchase a copy or two when it is released in stores.
until then, i'll probably keep bumping the mp3s for the next 9 days =)
and hey, it's definitely good for a first album...many artists push out a few albums before they really hit mainstream.
Genghis Konn
10-11-2004, 01:46 AM
i downloaded this album just to listen and im glad i didnt buy it. there were maybe 4-5 good songs on the whole album.
TossMySaladYo
10-11-2004, 01:48 AM
it grew on me, at first listen i didn't really like it, then i gave it a chance and it's not all that bad...some of the tracks are good, just not catchy. he needs catchy track though
does anyone else like the album version of Thank You?
profecy
10-11-2004, 02:13 AM
i like the album version of thank you the beat isnt that bad
Gfresh
10-11-2004, 02:15 AM
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemix
Seif178
10-11-2004, 02:39 AM
It's not bad... it's pretty obvious that Jin recycled some lines but his album's still a lot better than a lot of the crap out there. I wouldn't classify a lot of the tracks as "mainstream" songs as the hooks don't have the same appeal as those of, say, 50 cent or eminem. Most of the tracks are well produced (I only had a problem with Club Song and Karaoke Night, which seemed a little off). And to the person who said Jin can't write, I listened to all the tracks and I personally feel that, overall, the lyrics are well thought out. At least Jin isn't talking about cash, money and cars every other second.
Favorite Tracks: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly, Love Story, Cold Outisde, C'Mon, I Gota Love, Same Cry, Get Your Handz Off
Lease Favorite Tracks: Kraoke Night, Club Song, Learn Chinese
Overall: 10/10... yeah, it's a biased rating...
PSmuRf
10-11-2004, 02:40 AM
6/10 3 good songs
elektrikal
10-11-2004, 02:48 AM
i liked it, i didnt dl same cry and cold outside cuz i got impatient waiting for the others to dl, and i figure id hear them later anyway when i buy the cd. my favourite are chinese beats, the come thru, club song and so afraid. its not nearly as bad as i thought itd be. though i havent heard those 2 songs, id give it a 7/10, it still could have been better i think.
PSmuRf
10-11-2004, 03:21 AM
chinese beats isnt a song its a skit
elektrikal
10-11-2004, 03:42 AM
^ well yeah obviously. why did u mention?
GNUG™
10-11-2004, 04:54 AM
http://www.holla-front.com/forum/image.php?u=5987&dateline=1097383015 whys he grabin himself?
Phame
10-11-2004, 04:55 AM
Sup Capital R!
my favs:
HERE NOW » ooh shitttttt. the album starts hard. this joint is a banger. that flow. that energy. that anger. i get that "idontknow/gimmick" feeling when i listen to this song
THE COME THRU » oooh shitttttttt. like some people said. this should of been the single. straight up a killer. jin with the "eeny meeny" flow. nice
SAME CRY » nice emotional track. diggin the message. diggin jin's voice on this one. that "inna zone" voice. whats up with that though? got the flu or high as hell? he needs to flow with this voice more often. it makes him sounds ill
SO AFRAID » its clear. nuff said.
THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE UGLY » nice laid back track. the beat does its job
C'MON » dont like the hook. but its a decent song. i be bumpin it
LOVE STORY + COLD OUTSIDE » enjoyed listening to the lyrics while peepin these two tracks. BUT to be honest. i dont like jin's voice on these tracks. this "soft" voice. get rid of that dawg. flow like you did on SAME CRY. now thats ill.
7.5/10
dont worry jin
imma cop it when i get the chance
now lean front
Karaoke night i was expecting it to be a lot better... i can't even hear what he spits. Overall i think the album is better then average which seems like most of the reviews hes getting. Gonna cop the album once it comes out gotta support him :P Wonder how many asian ppl going to make up his sales would be interesting.
b1zzle
10-11-2004, 07:08 AM
put it on the ipod, still need to listen to the whole thing. Skimming through though;
Intro - lol
Here Now - hot
Get Your Handz Off - hot
Club Song - okay
The Come Thru - not bad
So Afraid - hot
I Got A Love - hot
Chinese Beats - lol
Learn Chinese - WOW I'VE NEVER HEARD THIS BEFORE
The Good, The Bad, The Ugly - DIU, JA LUN GAO
Senorita - kinda cool
Cold Outside - blah blah emotional
Love Story - blah blah emotional
C'Mon - cool
Karaoke Night - not bad
Same Cry - blah blah emotional
Thank You - blah blah emotional
Overall it sounds pretty solid for a first album though, 8.5/10. Might buy it just to support the guy.
GNUG™
10-11-2004, 07:21 AM
i wonder if people caught that club song was makin fun of other club songs?
elektrikal
10-11-2004, 07:29 AM
^ yea thats what i like about it. listen to his last verse its funny as hell
Jiize
10-11-2004, 07:40 AM
My fav tracks: Here Now (for battle type song), Senorita (more mainstream content-wise)
I expected Karoake Night and Cold Outside to be harder. Wasnt really feeling the beats or the feel of the tracks. If Jin does a song with Styles P. it should be some hard streets "reppin Double R internationally" type shit...and it just didnt have that vibe.
Anyhows I'll still buy the album. I do think its better than Cassidy or Kanye's albums.
My overall rating: 7.5/10
xdlin22
10-11-2004, 06:07 PM
8/10
lots of the songs i can relate to
Barry
10-12-2004, 12:09 AM
I rate this a 8.5/10 better than what i thought Jin could do.
thank god he didnt lose the chinese in him.
"Dee CHEEn hay been ah?" "Ja lung gow" haha loved it.
FiNeAzNKiD
10-12-2004, 12:37 AM
i downloaded this album just to listen and im glad i didnt buy it. there were maybe 4-5 good songs on the whole album.
yeah thats true but most albums nowadays onoly have like 2-3 songs that are good. VERY solid for a debut album
XstahSie
10-12-2004, 01:40 AM
Here's my review of The Rest Is History:
01. Intro - The Signing (Score: Very Funny)
02. Here Now (Score: 5/5)
03. Get Your Handz Off (feat Swizz Beatz) (Score: 5/5)
04. Club Song (Score: 3/5)
05. The Come Thru (feat Twista) (Score: 5/5)
06. So Afraid (Score: 3/5)
07. I Got A Love (feat Kanye West) (Score: 2/5)
08. Chinese Beats (skit) (Score: Very Funny)
09. Learn Chinese (feat Wyclef) (Score: 2/5)
10. The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (Score: 4/5)
11. Senorita (Score: 5/5)
12. Love Story (feat Aja Smith) (Score: 4/5)
13. Cold Outside (feat Lyfe) (Score: 3/5)
14. C'Mon (Score: 4/5)
15. Karaoke Night (feat Styles P) (Score: 4/5)
16. Same Cry (feat LT) (Score: 3/5)
17. Thank You (Score: 1/5)
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Total Score: 53 out of 75
0=Awful, 37-38=Fair, 75=Excellent
This is a pretty good album! Can't expect every single track to be good. Most artist nowadays only have 2 or 3 good songs on their new release anyway. So, it doesn't make Jin's album any different. If you don't like it, don't buy it. I know I will get a copy when it comes out. In conclusion, give the man some credit at least for his hard work.
sometimes i think that jin prematurely releasing all those songs such as i gotta love, hands off has kinda dullened the albumn. those songs which were meant to be the hits no longer have its appeal. but honestly this is a solid albumn, the majority of the songs are decent and listenable, what i think its lacking are solid hits which will appeal to everyone. actually perhaps hands off, i gotta love and senority will, but i think i over killed it by listening to it one too many times.
Them songs you mentioned such as i gota love and hands off probably haven't been heard from most the mainstream ppl. I think its just mainly ppl on this board which have heard it. But yea I guess that's the kinda double edged sword of an exclusive you hear it first but you get bored of it first huh..
Geeorge
10-13-2004, 05:04 PM
9 out of 10!
Da Real Wu
10-13-2004, 07:48 PM
Hooks were terrible but he was on point on most of them tracks especially here now (hook literally killed the song) and hooks sell so he might flop. I'm surprised he got such good production, I mean damn it beats cass, drag, and jada's albums combined
2gunzup
10-14-2004, 02:52 AM
everysongs on kiss of death wuz a hit
yeah thats true but most albums nowadays onoly have like 2-3 songs that are good. VERY solid for a debut album
Legend
10-14-2004, 03:15 AM
only good songs are 12 and 13...and the beats was prolly why.
cd was prolly trash over all tho..prolly a 2/5..and dats being nice. its funny i thought he was actually gonna be hip hop. but through out the whole album he just comes out to be one hypocritical bastard. talking bout pumps make u learn chinese, den comes around wit cold outside saying dat he doesnt have guns..wtf?..i can point out many other spots also.
and the hooks he did were horrible also, only the one wit someone else on it was prolly nice..shit i thought dis was gonna change my feelings before i downloaded the album, but it didnt. shits wack and featured artists like styles p make it wacker.
Presage
10-14-2004, 03:18 AM
01. Intro - The Signing (Score: who gives a fuck...it's an intro...)
02. Here Now (Score: 3/5)....decent track...nothing special tho....
03. Get Your Handz Off (feat Swizz Beatz) (Score: 2/5)....didnt like this track....to dipsetish...
04. Club Song (Score: 2/5) ...
05. The Come Thru (feat Twista) (Score: 3/5)...Twista shines the shit outta Jin on this track tho....
06. So Afraid (Score: 2/5)....beat annoys me far too much to enjoy this song...
07. I Got A Love (feat Kanye West) (Score: 2/5) ....not feelin
08. Chinese Beats (skit)
09. Learn Chinese (feat Wyclef) (Score: 1/5) Couldn't stand this....
10. The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (Score: 4/5)...story-tellin...boring ass delivery on this track....other than that it was good...
11. Senorita (Score: 1.5/5)....I hate tracks like this....
12. Love Story (feat Aja Smith) (Score: 5/5)....love this track....great story-tellin....
13. Cold Outside (feat Lyfe) (Score: 3/5)...ehh...lyrics are straight...beat and delivery once again almost put me to sleep tho...
14. C'Mon (Score: 4/5)...I like the beat...better delivery....lyrics are pretty good at parts...
15. Karaoke Night (feat Styles P) (Score: 3/5)...eh
16. Same Cry (feat LT) (Score: 2.5/5)...back on the boring ass delivery....song almost put me to sleep...lyrics are straight tho...
17. Thank You (Score: 4/5)....just cuz it's heartfelt..
Overall:...it was aight...i dunno...I wasn't expecting much...an average CD IMO
KLEP ONE
10-14-2004, 07:00 AM
I WAS GONNA BREAK MY REVIEW DOWN SONG BY SONG BUT IT'LL JUST GET IGNORED BY NOW JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER ONES SO YEA...I LIKE THIS ALBUM, COULDA BEEN BETTER WITH GIMMICK AND OH NO ON IT BUT THE CD OVERALL IS HOT. HOT BEATS, ON CLUB SONG HE REUSED 2 OLD VERSES, I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE WROTE NEW ONES FOR THAT BUT FUG IT TOO LATE NOW...AND THATS ABOUT IT. HOT CD. 8.5/10
:boo:
billw84x
10-14-2004, 07:01 AM
the amount of reviews here is the amount of people who either downloaded or got the bootleg of jin's album-- pretty sad
KLEP ONE
10-14-2004, 07:08 AM
YOUR POINT?...I'M STILL GONNA COP IT.
:boo:
Syk0tic
10-14-2004, 07:23 AM
I'm going to buy the cd...
everytime i listen to 'love story' i always wonder why he questions whether the story is true with "i know it probably sounds like a true story... coulda happened to any one of us" which then kills the song coz u think "oh he made all that shit up" but then later he reveals its true. wats the point of that? and in 'the good, the bad, and the ugly' he does the same thing about the 'true story' but then obviously its a made up story.
invAZN
10-14-2004, 06:51 PM
The Skits Are Fukcing Jokess!!!!!
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Changy6933
10-15-2004, 11:48 AM
i dont know if ne one else noticed..maybe thats how u heard the cd..
but that aol sessions page thing..has the whole cd for listen
TossMySaladYo
10-15-2004, 12:15 PM
I WAS GONNA BREAK MY REVIEW DOWN SONG BY SONG BUT IT'LL JUST GET IGNORED BY NOW JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER ONES SO YEA...I LIKE THIS ALBUM, COULDA BEEN BETTER WITH GIMMICK AND OH NO ON IT BUT THE CD OVERALL IS HOT. HOT BEATS, ON CLUB SONG HE REUSED 2 OLD VERSES, I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE WROTE NEW ONES FOR THAT BUT FUG IT TOO LATE NOW...AND THATS ABOUT IT. HOT CD. 8.5/10
:boo:
i don't see why you would want gimmick on it. c'mon is a better track with the same content. don't wanna hear a bunch of the same shit on one cd
Chosun
10-15-2004, 01:58 PM
i don't see why you would want gimmick on it. c'mon is a better track with the same content. don't wanna hear a bunch of the same shit on one cd
gimmick is jin's hottest track.. the version that is out is crap sound quality wise, but it's STILL his hottest track..
Chosun
10-15-2004, 02:02 PM
everytime i listen to 'love story' i always wonder why he questions whether the story is true with "i know it probably sounds like a true story... coulda happened to any one of us" which then kills the song coz u think "oh he made all that shit up" but then later he reveals its true. wats the point of that? and in 'the good, the bad, and the ugly' he does the same thing about the 'true story' but then obviously its a made up story.
huh?? the love story thing is true, he reveals it in the last verse... it's the point of the song to make you think about who this person could possibly be, since jin doesn't reveal in the first two verses..
n3wtyp3
10-15-2004, 10:54 PM
danm well worth $13.00. i'm suprised it was THIS good. the good, the bad, and the ugly hella caught me off guard, then skip senorita, and the whole last half of the album was all good shit - hell, maybe even classic material. too bad they kept learn chinese and droped Music for Life tho....
i know its true, but wats the point of not revealing who it is coz it confused sum ppl who were not big followers of jin, coz he kinda says the same line about whether or not the song is a true story is 'the good, the bad and the ugly' so its kinda confusing. its good to do a story telling type song but he shouldnt of questioned the truth of it
FlipDrtySthPimp
10-16-2004, 12:24 AM
that love song or love story is a pretty good track
filokid04
10-16-2004, 12:38 AM
where the fuck are u's all dl'n it
Changy6933
10-16-2004, 02:22 AM
here now or w/e it is, is one of my fav...
same cry and love song are good too...
i dont really like club song and karaoke night
cali_love
10-16-2004, 02:31 AM
shitt same cry is so sickk.............this alone gets me to buy the album...
one trak m1nD
10-16-2004, 05:24 PM
Hmm, I just realized.
Whatever happened to that "Chinatown" track that was supposed to be on the CD?
MC Hao
10-16-2004, 05:57 PM
i think its good enough compare to the shits being put out nowadays, i still wish jin never did learn chinese track.
evilkokonut
10-19-2004, 05:04 PM
1. Intro/ The Signing (Skit)
2. Here Now (5/5) great song
3. Get Your Handz Off (4/5) old, but still good
4. Club Song (3/5) good beat... kinda corny tho
5. The Come Thru (featuring Twista) (4/5) good song... beat is kinda wack
6. So Afraid (3/5) okay song.. growing on me
7. I Got a Love (featuring Kanye West) (4/5) never gets old
8. Chinese Beats (Skit) (5/5) funny as hell
9. Learn Chinese (featuring Wyclef) (3/5) mediocre song
10. The Good, The Bad & The Ugly
11. Senorita (5/5) good mainstream song
12. Love Story (4/5) nice lyrics
13. Cold Outside (featuring Lyfe) (4/5) ditto
14. C'mon (5/5) awesome song
15. Karaoke Night (featuring Styles P.) (4/5) styles p helps out
16. Same Cry (featuring L.T.)
17. Thank You (3/5) old beat was betta
dbrasco11
10-19-2004, 09:59 PM
After reading the vague reviews in this thread I felt that I needed to give a more objective criticism. First let me state that I have been a strong Jin supporter ever since the first 106 battle. For an Asian-American, to see Jin destroy his opponents and exploit the stereotypes that were used against him was a dream. While many fans here on HF might find my review to simply be slanderous I am writing this in the light of responsibilities that I felt a potential voice in our community should have had.
As the first mainstream Asian American rap artist, I felt that Jin had an obligation to address issues that we as a subculture deal with. In American society we do not fit any slots that people normally are placed in. First, we are not black or white. Second, we are not only Hip-Hop fans, nor are we simply Asian Americans. We are a niche group, with our own identity: a true minority group in our own right. A group that needed a voice, to let people know that we exist and what we’re all about. Jin even said it himself, “to do for Asians what Big Pun did for Latinos.” While this may have been a colossal undertaking, it was one that I felt he was truly worthy of.
True Hip-Hop should be an expression of self, and I do not see a great deal of expression here. While Jin may have been under pressure by Virgin to produce a more pop album I do not know. However, considering the fact that we waited three years for this album to come out, I would have hoped he would have put a little more thought and effort into it. I have read many reviews here that said, “Oh, its ok for a debut album.” I find this to be simply unacceptable. For someone like Chingy, J-Kwon, or Cassidy, making a mediocre debut album might be alright. Jin’s situation is different. If Jin flops, we may never witness another Asian American major label signing ever again. Historically, some of the best Hip-Hop albums of all time were debut albums. (Illmatic, Ready to Die, 36 Chambers, Low End Theory, etc.)
The biggest issue that Jin struggled with from the beginning was whether or not he was a gimmick. He constantly says on his album that he is not a gimmick. In my opinion, the only true way for him to prove to the public that he is not would be to produce a timeless high quality album. This would involve actually saying something. For the most part, underlying messages, themes, are non-existent. I understand that we live in a world of watered-down hip hop but even 50 Cent was able to say something on his album. A large portion of the album is simply filler material. Here’s what I thought of each song:
Here Now: Mediocre, but seems to fit as an opening track. Jin does a decent job of setting a solid tone for the album.
Get Your Handz Off Me: One of the better tracks on the album; however Jin’s flow is strikingly similar to Camron on Get Em Girls. Neo did a good job with the beat.
Club Song: This song could easily have been omitted. It is extremely generic and uninspired. The lyrics are extremely generic, especially the hook. Just Blaze doesn’t help improve the situation either.
The Come Thru: The beat is decent. Jin’s lyrics are again generic. Twista easily outshines Jin.
So Afraid: One of the better tracks on the album. I do find it ironic that he accuses other rappers of sounding the same while he falls victim to the same problem.
I Got a Love: Working with Kanye was definitely a good idea, but since Kanye used the same sample already this record had no chance of success. No room in the airwaves for two songs with the same sample.
Learn Chinese: I think Wyclef did a decent job on this beat, but I don’t feel the same way about the rest of this song. Jin says that he wasn’t gonna rap about guns or drugs, but apparently, “the barrel of the gun gonna’ make us speak another language” Also, I simply could not stand the girl in the hook.
The Good Bad and Ugly: Again, I thought we weren’t going to be talking about guns and drugs? This is the first opportunity we have on the album to hear his storytelling skills, and guess what, it’s about a drug dealer. This type of story has been done a million times, and Jin really didn’t put much of a spin on it.
Seniorita: I really don’t see how this became the lead single for the album. Another watered down generic song.
Love Story: I felt that this was one of the strongest tracks on the album. Jin’s storytelling skills really shine here. I wish more of the album sounded like this. Not necessarily the soft tone, or the love theme, but the discussion of pertinent issues. Earlier in my review I said that Jin had to address Asian-American issues and interracial dating is one of those.
Anyone could write a love song, but here we can see the situation from an Asian-American perspective. I remember reading in an interview that Jin said that something he wanted to accomplish with his album was to give people a look at life from an AA perspective but this is really the only track where I think he got the job done.
Cmon: This is one of my favorite tracks on the album. I’m feeling the beat and if you take this song for what it is, it’s hot. But when you look at it under the scope of the whole album, Jin spends way too much time telling us that he had to go through a lot to get here today. I’ll discuss this more later.
Karaoke Night: Throwaway track. Waste of a guest appearance by Styles. Please help me understand the concept behind this song. How does Karaoke night turn into Open Mic night? We got some real garbage lyrics here: (Is that a pizza or lemon meringue??? Order now and get free installation??? ) I don’t’ know how Styles P gave this one the green light.
Same Cry: Decent track.
Thank You: Glad to see him do a track like this, although I’m bitter because he left me out.
Another thing that bothered me about the album is that Jin spent so much time taking about haters, and how he struggled to get to his fame, that he forgot about putting a lot of meaningful content into the album. Add the fact that a good chunk of it is filler material, and I find a lot lacking here.
Maybe I’m really asking for too much from Jin. Who knows how it must feel to be under the pressures in the position that he is in. A lot of what I have said gives you the impression that I hate the album. That’s not true, while I hoped it to be a lot more than it came out to be, it still is a good step in the right direction for us. Hopefully we will see a second album from Jin where we can see more of what I wished for in the first album.
Hope you enjoyed reading this if you made it all the way through. I look forward to reading some intelligent responses.
..razo..
10-19-2004, 11:42 PM
^pretty much agreed
beats on some tracks are not that hot, sometimes the beats make the lyrics seem mediocre when theyre not that bad... although they are pretty generic on most of the tracks... it sounds like hes hell bent on being perfectly mainstream and unoffensive
but i thought the lyrics overall were pretty original in their construction (after all, Jin is a battle mc)... the content is kinda unoriginal and repetitive though like ^ said
love story was the best song in my opinion, cuz u can tell it comes from the heart... its pretty cheesy but u can tell Jin doesnt care cuz he says a bunch of shit that is pretty embarrassing if u think about it (he wrote the girl a letter??) and then says 'its crazy though right' when it doesnt seem that crazy to me... maybe it does to a non asian audience i dunno... but its crazy to Jin and the concept is original, combined with some good storytelling and original flows, this is what the album should have been more like
karaoke night... i liked the hook... ill turn karaoke night into open mic night!...
same cry was alright... but all of these good or better songs would have sounded much better next to more of the same in an overall stronger album
it seems to me that Jin needs to ask himself what he wants in life... does he want to be an ARTIST? which would mean he would have to make ART... does he want a strong album? once again half the time it seems like hes bragging about not caring while at the same time not trying to offend
not trying to hate, cant even imagine the pressure being up there in that position, in fact im thankful for this album and ill always be a Jin fan, thats why im saying this shit cuz i know he has more potential know what i mean?
Ross-
10-20-2004, 01:37 PM
i think this album is nice... 2 3 7 11 16 are good ones... rest doesnt catch me.. straight album overall, hell make some money.
Ross-
10-20-2004, 01:52 PM
here now is prolly my fav song on this cd:)
Guy Scissorhands
10-20-2004, 03:11 PM
"Senorita" "The Come Thru" "Get Your Handz Off" and "Here Now" are the top 4 songs for me... Senorita is on repeat as i speak! lol
Trak Starz
10-20-2004, 03:31 PM
i got this from www.cduniverse.com all the reviews SEEM GOOD.. GOOD JOB JIN!
SIMPLY AMAZING!!!!!!!, October 20, 2004
Reviewer: A music fan
Those who have followed Jin know that the man is incredibly gifted despite the lack of airtime he gets.Despite all the factors that are seemingly agianst him, Jin rises to the top in his first release, and sure to silence all his critics that believe him the be just a gimmick or a fade. After listening to the album, It is clear that Jin is going to be around for a long time to come. The talent he shows on this CD will no doubt eventually show, and cause radio stations around the country to play him and give him his due.
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Go, Jin, October 20, 2004
Reviewer: F. Chang (Stony Brook, NY United States) - See all my reviews
This is a very nice album. It is a break through. A wonderful break through for Chinese in US. Give it a chance.
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Solid Album, October 20, 2004
Reviewer: Cloud KJ (Union City, CA, USA) - See all my reviews
Despite critics denouncing Jin's questionable "gimmicky" unofficial single, "Learn Chinese", this album still represents a solid performance from the Freestyle Friday champion from BET's 106 and Park. The album features guest appearances from some of the hottest hip-hop artists in the mainstream today, including Kanye West, Twista, and Styles P. Some highlights of the album include "Get Your Handz Off", which has Jin spitting a unique rhyming pattern over a fast-paced, upbeat set of Neo beats. Definitely not an artist lacking in wits and a sense of humor, Jin includes the satiric "Club Song" to poke fun at the similar qualities of so many mainstream songs today. Twista packs some heat with his appearance on "The Come Thru", which ironically includes a catchy, club-songish beat. One of two love-themed songs "I Got A Love" features the production and chorus singing of Kanye West, with Kanye utilizing his similar trademarked methods of sampling to create a catchy, drum-based background. Jin represents his hometown of Miami on his official single, "Senorita", which includes bouncy tunes that will inevitably hit many dance floors. "Love Song" is one of the truest tracks laid down by the emcee, where he rhymes about his first love and the issues of interracial relationships. Jin doesn't stop there, as he simply flips the script on "C'mon", which is arguably the best song on the album, lyrically and rhythmically. Trying to shy away from the usual subjects of cars, sex, and drugs that appear so regularly on hip-hop albums, Jin's most profound performance is manifested in "Same Cry", where he lectures about many struggles that Asians and Asian Americans have had to face throughout history. To top it all off, Jin remembers to count his blessings and dedicates a hot track called "Thank You", which features a thank you speech of epic length, showing that the artist isn't taking anything for granted. Overall, "The Rest Is History" features some solid performances from Jin, as he demonstrates versatility, potential for mass appeal, and lyrical insight through his songs.
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Solid Album, October 20, 2004
Reviewer: Da Shizzle (Seattle) - See all my reviews
I gotta say there's some bad songs (Kanye West track) but most of them are solid tracks...go cop it, "Same Cry" is a great song
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Think Chink
10-21-2004, 08:24 PM
dbrasco11 is a LOSER!
yea, i'm just kidding haha
good review
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